This is more of an interesting observation that I have made about Hinduism and one of the theories of end of universe
Let’s start with defining the Big Crunch.
Before we can do that we must explain big bang theory
According to the Big Bang model, the Universe expanded from an extremely dense and hot state and continues to expand today. A common analogy explains that space itself is expanding, carrying galaxies with it, like raisins in a rising loaf of bread. The graphic scheme above is an artist’s concept illustrating the expansion of a portion of a flat Universe.
Now I think this was simple enough to explain . All the matter was in universe was concentrated in a very small shell. It got unstable and a big bang.
As of now the big bang theory is the most accepted to all theories. It is reinforced by the doppler’s effect as observed by hubble telescope
Now the Big crunch
The big crunch is again a theory, which is still a not so widely accepted theory, now it says that if the universe is finite and the galaxy’s, which are moving away from each other after the Big Bang , do not reach an escape velocity then they will all start attracting each other at one point in time and start collapsing into each other.
This starts of a chain reaction and eventually every thing collapses into each other and everything comes down to one big shell.
If the universe is finite in extent and the cosmological principle (not to be confused with the cosmological constant) does not apply, and the expansion speed does not exceed the escape velocity, then the mutual gravitational attraction of all its matter will eventually cause it to contract. Because entropy continues to increase in the contracting phase, the contraction would appear very different from the time reversal of the expansion. While the early universe was highly uniform, a contracting universe would become increasingly clumped. Eventually all matter would collapse into black holes, which would then coalesce producing a unified black hole or Big Crunch singularity.
Now this theory at the moment is not very popular
Recent experimental evidence (namely the observation of distant supernova as standard candles, and the well-resolved mapping of the cosmic microwave background) have led to speculation that the expansion of the universe is not being slowed down by gravity but rather accelerating. However, since the nature of the dark energy that drives the acceleration is unknown, it is still possible that it might eventually reverse sign and cause a collapse.[3]
Coming to Hinduism and its origin
The Nasadiya Sukta of the Rig Veda describes the origin of the universe. The Rig Veda’s view of the cosmos also sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, Vaak, ‘birthing’ the cosmos that we know, from the monistic Hiranyagarbha or Golden Egg [7].
Now the golden egg has a importance here.
In the above Gif picture you can see that the universe collides into one big shell like thing. Could this be possibly to what the Rig veda was referring to?
More from Rig veda.
Once the Universe has been destroyed by Shiva, Brahma starts the creation once again. This creation-destruction cycle repeats itself almost endlessly
Both the Rig Veda and Brahmanda Purana describe a universe that is cyclical or oscillating and infinite in time. The universe is described as a cosmic egg that cycles between expansion and total collapse. It expanded from a concentrated form — a point called a Bindu. The universe, as a living entity, is bound to the perpetual cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.
The later Puranic view asserts that the Universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about 4,320,000 years—one day/Kalpa of Brahma, the creator) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, Brahma rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named Pralaya (Cataclysm), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 trillion, 40 billion human years) that represents Brahma’s lifespan.
Further more in the veda it is said that
Indra and the Ants
In this story from the Brahmavaivarta Purana,[14][15] Indra defeats V?trá and releases the waters. Elevated to the rank of King of the gods, Indra orders the heavenly craftsman, Vishvakarma, to build him a grand palace. Full of pride, Indra continues to demand more and more improvements for the palace. At last, exhausted, Vishvakarma asks Brahma the Creator for help. Brahma in turn appeals to Vishnu, the Supreme Being.
Vishnu visits Indra’s palace in the form of a brahmin boy; Indra welcomes him in. Vishnu praises Indra’s palace, casually adding that no former Indra had succeeded in building such a palace. At first, Indra is amused by the brahmin boy’s claim to know of former Indras. But the amusement turns to horror as the boy tells about Indra’s ancestors, about the great cycles of creation and destruction, and even about the infinite number of worlds scattered through the void, each with its own Indra. The boy claims to have seen them all. During the boy’s speech, a procession of ants had entered the hall. The boy saw the ants and laughed. Finally humbled, Indra asks the boy why he laughed. The boy reveals that the ants are all former Indras.
Another visitor enters the hall. He is Shiva, in the form of a hermit. On his chest lies a circular cluster of hairs, intact at the circumference but with a gap in the middle. Shiva reveals that each of these chest hairs corresponds to the life of one Indra. Each time a hair falls, one Indra dies and another replaces him.
No longer interested in wealth and honor, Indra rewards Vishvakarma and releases him from any further work on the palace.
Well it all does make some sense, doesn’t it now.
Every time the universe is destroyed by the big crunch or the golden egg what ever you might choose to call it, it is reborn again with the big bang and the circle of life continues, A new Indra is born and a new human life.
It all seems a bit far fetched and unrealistic, but hey it might just happen.
The universe might not be all that infinite. I mean we as humans have a no idea. It can be like a ripple in a tub of water. Once it reaches the end of the universe, it will come colliding and collapsing into a golden egg.
Well it is a bit hard to believe that the universe has a limit, but then. you never know that the Dark matter which is accelerating the universe right now, might get to the end of the universe .
Anyway I am no astro physicist , Please leave your comments and brick bats here.
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have you ever readed cosmology seriously you know nothing about big bang and have already started comparison i can bet 100 dollars that you know nothing about field equations,symmetry,quantum fluctuation,ergotropic universe,false vaccum,virtual particle etc. and you are making such claim to justify something that is entirally mythical in nature.tell you what there are three possible geometry depending on the value of omega not the electricity omega but cosmological constant omega it is the value of omega and amount of dark energy that decides the fate of universe.our all physics has failed to detoxify singularity we don’t know what is singularity.and you claimed it complete and married with your stupid belief.go take a degree in astrophysics and then you will get my point.you know nothing and your article depicts it very well if the vedas were so scientific why it wasn’t written in clean text that end of universe is singularity you are just twisting words people like you just read a fancy equation like e=mc^2 and get mad start to make point.you have no understanding of the mathematical complexity and scientific method.keep the faith and fact seprate don’t mix them.if you are so confident then why not apply for noble prize since you believe have already founded the answer stupid.shame of you people like you have sended our coutry scientific advancement in a pit.i am ashamed to call you a sane person.and yes if you are intrested i am an indian and i feel ashamed because of people like you.
Your religion seriously intereferes with your Intellect.Hence the anger.
and one more thing you fan of 3 idiot movie i feel pity of the people who make lame excuses for their laziness and inability by hiding behind example like einstein,edison.tell you what einstein was reading tensor geometry at age of 20 he was top of math class his entire life he wasn’t a failure his thinking was just unconventional.you will die reading 3-d geometry simple equation tensor is a multi variable approach to geometry way beyond stupid religous nuts.science whether its engineering or quantum mechanics is tough and those who can’t tolerate it should go to those stupid dance competition and study art or cookery.but don’t make movie like 3 idiot yes education needs to be simplified but it doesnt mean that you will get a science degree in a silver platter you have to work hard for it.scientists spend their life to find one equation and don’t complain.while losers say that they are having difficulty absorbing the fact which have been served with as easy as possible and planty of time to spare.science is not for flirt shirts it is a serius buisness.if you can’t do it leave the hall.a quote to summarize the point:
“But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.”
— Carl Sagan author of contact
Ya Hi, I am not too sure which part of “This is more of an interesting observation that I have made about Hinduism and one of the theories of end of universe” and “Anyway I am no astro physicist , Please leave your comments and brick bats here.” was not clear to you.
Clearly communication in English is not your thing.
I am open to disputes and meaningful discussion .
If you have thing in particular to discuss then please post it. Otherwise save your bandwidth and mine
Thanks.
Tejaswy
see that’s my point you can’t prove your point since you don’t have proper understanding of big crunch an understanding of big crunch you compared and adjusted it according to your comfort and published it you are typing title as big crunch the end result of big crunch is black hole not regeneration of universe what you are reffering to is called big bounce and is predicted by loop quantum gravity theory. and what do you mean by english is not my thing if you are referring to the typing error then that happened because of hurry.there is no connection between religion and science so we shouldn’t try to make one.religion is not a point of view it is denial of the obvious.science is fact and is open to modification unlike religion where asking question is taboo.back in days it was considered dangerous to watch eclipse now whenever a eclipse comes billions of people watch it and nothing happens.and coming to origin and end of universe we are still unsure we have a few assumption and mathematical model big crunch is just one of them there are many ways universe might end one is big crunch when gravity overpowers and crushes all the matter leading to generation of singularity or a black hole.this is one next is loop quantum gravity where universe keeps bouncing it singularity reaches a saturation point it explodes and recrete universe but with antimatter if you have readed that in beginning matter and antimatter were in the nearlly equivalent amount and soon annihilated each other but still some matter survived due to cp violation.in the next big bang after big crunch if that happened the antimatter will dominate an when it will happen again matter it is a cycle according to loop quantum gravity and is called big bounce you are titling your article with big crunch and refering to big bounce so as a matter of fact you don’t have a clue yourself what you are saying just like any other religious person.tell you what a better theory than all of these is called infinite inflating theory and most dominating and my favorite.relativity and any theory doesn’t explain about how big bang happened in the first neither big bounce tells us that how the singularity came into existence but this theory does according to it universe is just a inflation of the bubble created into scalar field and it tells that universe is realization of a false vaccum and there are universes being created all the time our universe is just part of a bigger field where universes pop into existence and vanish.the topic is too broad to discuss in comment but this theory also predicts that universe can be created into lab you compress a ounce of matter to planck scale the space will enter into state of false vaccum and a new universe will generate.another theory suggest that we live on a brane(membrane in general term) which floats in 5 dimensional universe.this model is called ergopyrotic universe.so now you are losing your nerve let me tell you end of universe if big crunch doesn’t happen in 100 trillion the last star will die and universe will be left with only brown dwarf,blck holes,neutron stars the remaining dwarf star will die in few more billion year even if a civilization survives that it will end for sure in 10 raised to the power 32 (10^32) years as the proton will decay and so all matter will dissintegrate.in many religions son is considered to be god but we now know that there is nothing special about sun its is just a star like the the 100 billion star in milkyway galaxy and 100 billion galaxies that compose 100 billion stars each. i won’t be posting any more comment since i have better things to do there is much more left to learn.
by the way i am not an astrophysicist just a ordinary indian boy.
and don’t mind the typing error they are because of less sensitive keyboard i takes hard punches to type properly even after pressing the key the alphabet don’t type properly leading to error like blckhole even when i type blackhole.
and as far as entropy is considered the entropy required to destablize universe would have appeared along time ago for such a big system like universe but it isn’t and explanation for this that our universe may be a part of larger multiverse due to which the entropy of a large universe doesn’t make much effect on our universe entropy.
and big bang is not simple instead it has imposed a larger trouble since a object cannot have infinite energy or mass still we consider the universe to be orignating from a dense point of infinite mass usual theory don’t tell us what was before big bang and how that ball came into existense.a lot of work is to be done in physics.
i liked the science part of your article but the second part about religion is absurd.keep learning science but don’t mix with myths.
Dear John,
I was trying to draw a similarity between the vedas and ONE OF THE theories of the universe “the big crunch”
I did not say this was the case of how the universe was created.
All the links are given,
One more thing about the Vedas I would like to point out. If you put all the vedas together today, they will only account for 1% of the vedas. The rest have been lost.
Now coming to dark matter. Has it been detected by man?, No. Do we know what its nature it ? Or how it behaves. Do we know anything about Dark Energy ? No. Speculation and theories.
I am not trying to prove the Big crunch theory right. I am just trying to show … “hey look some thing of this nature had a mention in the hindu vedas some 6000 -3000 years ago.”
If you read the blog more carefully you will see that in vedas it is kind of mentioned that this is the 14th time that the universe has been remade (Indra and ants) and the origin of the universe was from a golden egg.
There is moving GIF to highlight this point.
I may be wrong. The big crunch theory has been without doubt been replaced by the string theory, but then like I said we do not know what the dark matter behaves and works out as.
I think I am repeating my self if I said again that I am trying to make an observation and not trying to prove anything.
If you are so passionate about it, Please write an article about this, and Iwill post this in this blog as you the author (guest blogger)
Like I said, I am open to meaningful discussions and arguments.
You might have mistaken to me as one of those people who do not accept their mistakes and keep arguing on, naah not me. I am willing to make mistakes and learn from them .I may be wrong and I am willing to accept it.
You might want to read the blog post again (this is what I meant when I said English might not be your thing)
What are you in a hurry about ?, the big crunch is not happening right now, is it ? ;P
And O, Even today’s scientist tell you not to watch a solar eclipse with your naked eyes
All the links are given in the blog follow them. They are wiki links so ……good luck editing them!!!!
Regards
Tejaswy
PS please indicate if you are interested to write a blog post contradicting my stand. I will contact you, given your email address is right
gladly i will write a article summarizing it and please edit the comment about 3 idiot the first line”one more thing you fan ” it is supposed to be written as “one more thing you fans” i was pointing to other readers who admire such movie it wasn’t for you and this post.please shift it to post”3 idiots really” and sorry for being rude in first comment since i know now that you are open minded please edit that.i will be happy to share insight with you and exchange information.
Ya, your email is bouncing. the next time you post use your proper email address in the “name and email address tab” so that i can contact you.
oh i just have a big crush on Penny, she is so damn hot-,:
my father likes Hinduism coz he believes that this is a good religion:–
john…..jst one thing to say…..it has become fashionable to demean religion(read vedas) in front of scinece..as if these two are mutual alien things…in contradiction science is its subset and religion is the universal set…..
the starting point of a theory is the belief in that…..so belief preceeds the logic which succeds it….today’s science is no position to map the polar regions which is why satellite pictures show a black spot there…..it wud take centuries by the time human mind attains the propensity to understand the vedas….nd never it can be understood by psuedo-scientists
“When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.” (ALBERT EINSTEIN)
“We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.“ (ALBERT EINSTEIN)
EXPANSION OF UNIVERSE IN VEDAS;
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THE RIG VEDA STATES:
“The Undeceivable who spread out all the worlds, keeper is he and guard of immortality”(Rig Veda 6.7.7)
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Moreover the vedic term of the universe is”BRAHMANDA”. The word brahmanda is derived from the word “brahma” which is in turn derived from the word “brha” meaning “to grow”,”to expand” and (referring to brahmanda) “anda” meaning “egg”. So, the vedas call the universe as “EXPANDING EGG” WHICH IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY THE MODERN SCIENCE
“Finally we came to conclusion that Universe is shaped like a egg but this information was already present in Hindu Literature.” SAYS (Alan Kogut, NASA)
“This is amazing to find the facts proven only in 20th century already present in Hindu Holy Books”. (D. Gubbins, University of Leeds, Department of Earth Sciences, Leeds LS2 9JT, UK)
MORE AND MORE ON VEDAS AND SHASTHRAS SHALL BE SENT TI YOU
DHANYAVAADAM,
YOURS TRULY,
SAROJ